Oh god, snow and DSG.....
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Oh god, snow and DSG.....
OK, I'm on normal tyres and snow tyres would make a big difference - let's get that out of the way.
But DSG in snow, I'd forgotten what a pain it is (we've had no meaningful snow here since 2010).
Just that lurch you get as it changes down at around 12mph.
No matter how gently you brake on snow, that added lurch makes the wheels lock and the ABS kick in.
Aaaargh...
Don't Snow Gearbox.
Definite Skid Gearbox.
But DSG in snow, I'd forgotten what a pain it is (we've had no meaningful snow here since 2010).
Just that lurch you get as it changes down at around 12mph.
No matter how gently you brake on snow, that added lurch makes the wheels lock and the ABS kick in.
Aaaargh...
Don't Snow Gearbox.
Definite Skid Gearbox.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Never had any such problems with 4 dsg's and without winter tyres. Just by being gentle on power and brakes
Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Stick it in manual and use the paddles.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Having Tombstone tyres won't be helping things. They're so hard, it's like driving on Summer tyres at -5C, when it's Summer. Using them in the Winter is much worse, like driving on wet glass. The wife's GTI+ on PS4 is still very grippy.
Using full manual mode does take some getting used to when DSG has made you lazy, and I'd naturally want to pull to ho up tge gears and push to go down (with the stick), but it's set up the opposite way.
Its also another reason for Andy to hate a car he's bought twice instead of the EV he really wants but won't pay the extra for.
Using full manual mode does take some getting used to when DSG has made you lazy, and I'd naturally want to pull to ho up tge gears and push to go down (with the stick), but it's set up the opposite way.
Its also another reason for Andy to hate a car he's bought twice instead of the EV he really wants but won't pay the extra for.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Disagree with the Bridgestones, as I said in another tyre thread here I find the cold grip excellent.monkeyhanger wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 8:05 am Having Tombstone tyres won't be helping things. They're so hard, it's like driving on Summer tyres at -5C, when it's Summer. Using them in the Winter is much worse, like driving on wet glass. The wife's GTI+ on PS4 is still very grippy.
Using full manual mode does take some getting used to when DSG has made you lazy, and I'd naturally want to pull to ho up tge gears and push to go down (with the stick), but it's set up the opposite way.
Its also another reason for Andy to hate a car he's bought twice instead of the EV he really wants but won't pay the extra for.
They've clearly done something with the compound since the ones you tried.
I've no need or desire to spend extra to get rid of them now, they're perfectly fine.
PS - EV's are no better in snow - no form of auto gives you the control of a manual in slippy conditions
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
If I was largely driving on the flat, it wouldn't be an issue.Rosinfield wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 9:25 am Never had any such problems with 4 dsg's and without winter tyres. Just by being gentle on power and brakes
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Just a minor detail not mentioned before
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Same goes for you.
Your "I have no problems driving in snow" wasn't followed with "but I do live in Holland"
It's a UK forum, I guess it's assumed most of us experience hills in our driving.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Fair enough
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Have to say my drive is on a hill to an ungritted road, and I’ve been out and about this morning. Eco mode and taking it slow and had no problems even on the icy car parks I nearly fell over on. My neighbour with his rwd struggled to get anywhere at all.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Both on summer tyres, FWD will always hold an advantage over RWD (but RWD is infinitely more fun).lancslad1985 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 31, 2020 12:38 pm Have to say my drive is on a hill to an ungritted road, and I’ve been out and about this morning. Eco mode and taking it slow and had no problems even on the icy car parks I nearly fell over on. My neighbour with his rwd struggled to get anywhere at all.
Put winter tyres on both cars though and the difference becomes negligible.
I've had 2 x 320D BMWs that went from hopeless to hilariously capable in snow, just by putting Pirelli Sottozero winters on.
Honestly, only the sheer depth of snow against the front spoiler held them back.
One guy on the BMW Alpina forum even went as far as saying his 320D estate on winters was more capable in snow than his Discovery on the standard tyres.
I just cannot be bothered putting winters on this Polo (wife's Evoque and daughter's Mii are both on all-season tyres).
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
After struggling to get up our street for the past couple of days, some Goodyear Vector all-season tyres are going on the front.
They'll stay on as long as I have the car, I'll throw the Bridgestones back on when it comes to putting it back.
This isn't criticism of the Bridgestones at all, any summer tyre would be struggling.
They'll stay on as long as I have the car, I'll throw the Bridgestones back on when it comes to putting it back.
This isn't criticism of the Bridgestones at all, any summer tyre would be struggling.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
I run two cars on snow with DSG and have no such problems.Andy Beats wrote: ↑Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:49 am OK, I'm on normal tyres and snow tyres would make a big difference - let's get that out of the way.
But DSG in snow, I'd forgotten what a pain it is (we've had no meaningful snow here since 2010).
Just that lurch you get as it changes down at around 12mph.
No matter how gently you brake on snow, that added lurch makes the wheels lock and the ABS kick in.
Aaaargh...
Don't Snow Gearbox.
Definite Skid Gearbox.
What I would recommend in the snow is to stick the driving mode to ECO and chuck the gearbox into the E mode instead od D mode. The changes are smoother and lower in the rev range - no hassles in the snow.
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Re: Oh god, snow and DSG.....
Or just fit the right tyres.fazzy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:00 pm I run two cars on snow with DSG and have no such problems.
What I would recommend in the snow is to stick the driving mode to ECO and chuck the gearbox into the E mode instead od D mode. The changes are smoother and lower in the rev range - no hassles in the snow.
The antipathy towards winter (or all season) tyres in the UK is weird.
It's like soldiering on with useless summer tyres is somehow admirable.