What should i do?....

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What should i do?....

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as a couple of you know, im thinking of selling my gt. Don't get me wrong, its a great car,im just a bit bored with it.I've just started a new job a few weeks back, so have a steady wage coming in every week, which means i can afford a bit newer car etc etc

I've got a mk2 golf gti that im repairing at the moment, but it doesn't look like that'll be done for a fair few months now :oops:

Question is....what do i go for next?

Been looking at the prices of mk4 16v's.... anyone got any opinions on them?

fancy something like this....
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Are there many silver 16v's about?


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Bloody hell, no wonder your bored with it. The potential hasn't been released yet. Don't expect a Mk 4 16v to be more exciting, get yourself a G40 if you wan't that.

Oh and bring my starter back.
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mk4 with a 1.8 transplant would be interesting project... :D
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hardhitter wrote: The potential hasn't been released yet. Don't expect a Mk 4 16v to be more exciting
its not just that im bored of the speed, i want something a bit newer too!
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im in the same situation mate, i love my GT & honestly dnt think i cood bear to part with it but i want something newer.

got a really good quote on a 1.8 GTi Turbo 51 plate Golf so im trying to save up some £££, turn 21 later in the year so hopefully have something sorted by then......
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Post by Tahrey1043 »

you'll have to have something quite grunty to get similar speed in a mk4 unless you strip it out, particularly if you decide to exploit the convenience of the slightly larger shell and get a 5 door. they be heavy :)
at least a 1.4 16v (worked hard up the revs) or maybe a 1.6 or TDi...

(am i talking out my arse here? dunno.. but the kilogramme measurements seem to stack up in favour of this argument ;))
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very nice car! go for it! :D
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yeh i no it would be dam heavy i think it should still go ok, wont be that same as driving the wee GT i no but im up for a change. :D
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it'll probably be a lot comfier and more "refined" ;)
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other option is a g40 :wink:
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yeh hopefully 1 day i will own a G40 :evil: but rite now i wnt something a bit newer & comfier (makes me sound old!!!!)

Plus the quote i got for the 1.8 GTi turbo is nearly half that of the G40 (only going with my existing insurance comp. prices)
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Post by GroovyCarrot »

Before you decide you're bored of your GT and want a newer car, can I just suggest that you find a way to spend a week or two driving a new model and then go back to your car, see which you find more interesting? At one point I decided that what I really wanted was a clio 1.9d.. nothing wrong with them, very economical, good bit of power, newer than the polo... I then spent a week driving my dad's clio as I was doing a lot of mileage and it was easier to take his car.. the moment I got back into mine I realised quite how much fun it is having all the strange little quirks that go with an old car, and how much it feels like a rollerskate. The clio had 96bhp to my 45, it had all the toys, '99 t reg, and it was a great car.. just wasn't anywhere near as fun. It had the power, but I didn't want to use it, it had the handling but it wasn't interesting so interesting.. everything just worked too perfectly for the whole thing to be fun. Got back into mine, felt the entire dashboard shift as I took it off steering lock, felt the engine complain a bit before it spluttered into a rough idle, waggled the pudding stirrer gear shift around until it finally got into first and drove the very boring drive up to the shop and back with a grin on my face all the way, because it was just so much more fun to drive :D

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure a mk4 16v would be a great car, just don't expect to be less bored by it simply because it's newer ;)
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i'll add my own experience to carrot's here -- the astra is undoubtedly the better car, more roomy, safer, comfortable (well, except the bloody seat*), quicker by far, sounds like a beast, better grip and less roll (i cant get the back end to step out no matter how hard i try), and probably more economical to boot...... but it's got no personality and aint anywhere near as fun to pootle around in :D

and with that it also gives you less confidence - power steering and the extra layer of comfort & cushioning removes a lot of the feedback that help you have a bit more "connection" with the road. therefore you're a little more removed from the driving experience and its somehow less enjoyable. think about it - most fun car on the road, probably a caterham... its a tin box on a 1930s design with a motorbike engine and next to no suspension or refinements :D

in the polo its fairly unsubtle, you can tell what's going on with quite some detail - the steering weighting up as you go into a corner, then becoming light again if you start to overdo it or the road is wet/icy, telling you to ease off, the weight shift if you yo-yo too hard or it's about to tailslide, the nosedive and the balance of knowing whereabouts the wheels are going to lock on heavy braking... the texture of the road surface, every little ridge and bump... etc :)
no doubt i'll get used to the more subtle feedback in the new car over time and be back on top of the game, but til then, i dont feel anywhere near as "safe" trying to get somewhere anywhere above a grandmotherly saunter, despite the survival chances in a same-speed crash probably being 50% better, as the chance of actually overdoing it at some point and pranging it or sailing into a ditch are higher ;)

besides, the polo is narrower and lighter, you can squeeze through impossible gaps and chuck it around with much abandon, a bit like a four-wheeled four-seat environment-proof bicycle :D to which the "new" car is a more like a BMW boxer GT bike.

convinced you yet?
if it wasnt for the more overriding reasons than the ephemeral "driver satisfaction" (the doors, the power, the gears ;)) i would have stuck with the mk3 til the wheels fell off or i could afford a proper roadster because the feel is so good. even on squishy stock suspension and steel pramwheels with £30 tyres.


* for some reason my legs have severe disagreement with most modern car seats when i have to position my feet into "pedals" position, astra and escorts included, particularly the left - indeed i'm crash-changing to the best of my ability a lot of the time right now. Need to get a cushiony cover... Can't explain why but it's simply not an issue in the ol' polo... instead my back and right shoulder yowk a little instead if i'm sitting more than an hour, which a lumbar-positioned cushion would probably fix.
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Post by robz »

Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh, its sooo hard! All the above mentioned pros & cons have been going thru my head. I drive my 'rents 52 plate Beetle sometimes & thats wot makes me want something newer BUT as soon as i get in my polo i love driving about in it, Its jst so much fun.

But i dont drive my car enough to justify 2cars, ive only ever owned mk3 polos, on my 3rd 1 now, so thats y i want a change.
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tell you what the top two wierdest things between the two are? not the steering, brakes, power on tap, comfort etc...

the position / "layout" of the gearshift, and the different positioning of the interior door handles

i'm suddenly seeing why my mates and family have had SO much trouble getting out of the polo over the last couple years - your hand instinctively goes forwards after even a couple hours of driving something without it in that rather inexplicable "open it with your elbow!" position. needs no guessing as to why that bit of unique design has been quietly lost lately.

and the base of the gearlever, i'm not kidding, there must be almost a foot difference between them (polo - further forward, 3rd is a stretch... astra, further backward, occasionally crunching 4th because i dont realise i havent pulled it all the way back.. ie to the handbrake!) and the resting position (for 3rd & 4th) is canted at a much different angle which makes operating it not so much difficult as just wierd.
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