what amp/sub to get

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gti_black
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what kinda output am i looking at realisticaly. rms/peak
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Ive no idea mate, the ratings company's quote are very rarely what you'll see.
Different impedances of different subs, how good your power supply is, how good an earth you have etc etc will all influence the power your amp will produce.

I would think a 500wrms amp at 14.4v would struggle to produce 400rms at 12v.

Its all guesses though, and TBH its not that important :)
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Tigz wrote:Ive no idea mate, the ratings company's quote are very rarely what you'll see.
Different impedances of different subs, how good your power supply is, how good an earth you have etc etc will all influence the power your amp will produce.

I would think a 500wrms amp at 14.4v would struggle to produce 400rms at 12v.

Its all guesses though, and TBH its not that important :)
hmm thats not as bad as i was thinking. just want a few more ppls opinions as i may decide to get this after all. just need a nice 12" to go with it now :wink:
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Also depends on whether they under-rate or over-rate their amp's power figures.

I know the quoted 1ohm power of the amp I'm getting is 1500w RMS but apparently is more like 1800w RMS, again that's at 14.4 but I should be seeing somewhere near 1400-1500 I should think.

*EDIT* save some money and buy the SE, it will laugh at 500w RMS :twisted:
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noting the things you guys said about the 14.4 power. it seems most of the ratings shown on that site and others are rated at 14.4v anyway.

also another contendor the jbl 601.1

http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/produc ... /2955.html

it has been getting a lot of good reviews from ppl. not the worlds best amp obviously but best bang for buck
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Your a badge snob when it comes to Blaupunkt but you'd have a JBL amp? lol

Its not a bad amp, although theres no way Id buy one new.
You can get them for next to nothing second hand.
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ModifiedMadness wrote:Also depends on whether they under-rate or over-rate their amp's power figures.

I know the quoted 1ohm power of the amp I'm getting is 1500w RMS but apparently is more like 1800w RMS, again that's at 14.4 but I should be seeing somewhere near 1400-1500 I should think.

*EDIT* save some money and buy the SE, it will laugh at 500w RMS :twisted:
so your saying get the SE 12" off NEILW and what amp should i use, the kenwood?? or the jbl ive mentioned above.
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I'd have thought either would power it sufficiently mate, so it's all up to you really.

You'll need an amp wiring kit as well, 4guage would be good for that combo 8)

I've met Neil before and he seems like a sound guy so you shouldn't have any problems dealing with him :D
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ModifiedMadness wrote:I'd have thought either would power it sufficiently mate, so it's all up to you really.

You'll need an amp wiring kit as well, 4guage would be good for that combo 8)

I've met Neil before and he seems like a sound guy so you shouldn't have any problems dealing with him :D
hmm seems like a good deal to me. although which amp should i get. jbl or kenwood. a lot of ppl are saying the jbl has good clean sound, although the kenwood has more power but apparently i saw on a website som guy complaining it heats up too quickly and keeps cutting out. wether or not it was faulty or not i dont know.
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An amp doesn't effect SQ, its just amplifies a signal.

If it was me, and I was forced into buying either of those two, Id have the Kenwood.
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hmm look nice but can they perform?? i need nice low b-line which hits the ears. doesnt have to wake up the whole street as long as it sound nice inside the car and within close range.

i only want oneany may consider those. anyone want the other??
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Post by Dee-vub »

Soundstream are very understated, but are absoulutely brilliant. I'v seen a couple of installs with Soundstream gear, and its bloody good stuff.

If i do eventually go for an install, soundstream would definitely be up there on my wanted list, shame i cant afford it at the moment! :(
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Just check out those vids!
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vids are crazy. but the downside they are 10's. i need nice smooth bass and judgin from the vid the bass would probably be hard. (cant stand punchy b-line)

still considering the SE12 though.
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