Ambiente Beleuchtung - Ambient lighting 6C

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Ambiente Beleuchtung - Ambient lighting 6C

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Hello electric specialist

I need som help with the "Ambiente Beleuchtung" connecting to the light switch mounted in the dome of an Polo 2017 model 6C

VW Polo 6C Ambientebeleuchtung Nachrüstpaket from the Website of k-electronic (google it)

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They say that it will work with connection to the bulbs in the dome, but that gives me problem when the car is turned of.
The LEDs in the "Ambiente Beleuchtung" light up the entire time full power when the car is turned on, but when the car is turned off and the car is locked they keeps flashin up and down, they never turn off.

The k-electronic support has said the following that i can do:

German:
"Somit z.B. am Lichtschalter anklemmen - hierzu führten wir damals bei Erwerb dieses Produktes ein Erweiterungspaket des Kabelsatzes.
-> Das ist einfach nur eine Leitung die Sie für die Spannungsversorgung nach unten legen müssen.
Diese Leitung führt ca. 6-8 Volt bei LICHT AN - dieses liegt z.B. an jedem beleuchteten Schalter oder am Lichtschalter an."

English (GOOGLE translate):
"Thus, for example, at the light switch to clamp - this we led at the time of purchase of this product, an expansion package of the cable set.
-> That's just a line you have to put down for the power supply.
This line carries about 6-8 volts at LIGHT - this is e.g. on each illuminated switch or on the light switch."



But i need the exact pin number or from where can i take the power, so is the anyone in here who can tell where to take the wire from?


Thx in Advance :-)
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T10/10 Light switch connector.
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Thanx, is there anywhere where I can see where that T10/10 looks, is placed?
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Thank very much Mr Polo :)

I have been reading everything in your own Post (ciclos polo), but could not find anything about ths subject, so thats why I had to pop the question :D

How do I get my hands on this electrical PDF? :lol:

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Can you tell me if pin 10 is Light or Ambiente light, because I have also this in my Car

Fußraumbeleuchtung Modul Nachrüstset Ambietebeleuchtung LED rot/weiß VW
from x2car

Footwell lighting module retrofit kit amber lighting LED red / white VW

The VW guys did the installation but when the Doom light is plugged in, nothing of the lights in the swichtes, the contacts, the footwell etc. is working - gone black

The Danish VW technician wrote this to me:

Fodrum er tilsluttet med 4 ledninger ..... 1 til dørkontakt , 1 til strøm 12V 1 til stel og 1 til 7-9V ambiente på lyskontakt
loftlys er til stel og den anden til 7-9V ambiente på lyskontakt
alt som i vejledningen ... som jeg sagde tror jeg bare ikke ambiente kan trække begge dele ! derfor tog vi jo sammen loftlys af igen .

Google translate:
Foot room is connected with 4 wires ..... 1 to door contact, 1 to power 12V 1 to frame and 1 to 7-9V ambiente on light switch
ceiling lights are available and the other for 7-9V ambiente on light contact
everything as in the guide ... as I said, I just do not think ambiente can draw both! so we took off the ceiling again.

And finnally, do I need a coding for the Ambient Lightning:
The picture is for the Footwell
- its working fine now - Function Door open - White light, Door closed - Red Light

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steen.knudsen wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:00 am How do I get my hands on this electrical PDF? :lol:
I sent you a link by private message, download the PDF.
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steen.knudsen wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:31 am Can you tell me if pin 10 is Light or Ambiente light,
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steen.knudsen wrote: Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:31 am Can you tell me if pin 10 is Light or Ambiente light, because I have also this in my Car

Fußraumbeleuchtung Modul Nachrüstset Ambietebeleuchtung LED rot/weiß VW
from x2car

Footwell lighting module retrofit kit amber lighting LED red / white VW

The VW guys did the installation but when the Doom light is plugged in, nothing of the lights in the swichtes, the contacts, the footwell etc. is working - gone black

The Danish VW technician wrote this to me:

Fodrum er tilsluttet med 4 ledninger ..... 1 til dørkontakt , 1 til strøm 12V 1 til stel og 1 til 7-9V ambiente på lyskontakt
loftlys er til stel og den anden til 7-9V ambiente på lyskontakt
alt som i vejledningen ... som jeg sagde tror jeg bare ikke ambiente kan trække begge dele ! derfor tog vi jo sammen loftlys af igen .

Google translate:
Foot room is connected with 4 wires ..... 1 to door contact, 1 to power 12V 1 to frame and 1 to 7-9V ambiente on light switch
ceiling lights are available and the other for 7-9V ambiente on light contact
everything as in the guide ... as I said, I just do not think ambiente can draw both! so we took off the ceiling again.

To operate this footwell lights :arrow: 8J0947409A (from olds -Audi A1, Audi A8, etc) in their two colors it is necessary to feed them by changing the polarity in their two pins. e.g, + 2-1 = works in white, -2 +1 = works red.(I do not remember exactly the polarities for these lights)
I suppose that the :arrow: X2car module is the one that makes the polarity change depending on the signal it receives.

The problem is that the ceiling/dome lights are feeding by the same wires, so when the polarity is changed by the module the ceiling/dome lights don't work when you push the dome switch.

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Edit
Maybe it's not exactly what's happening, it's just an idea.
Look at the diagrams.
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Thx and Thx :D

Yes, the X2Car module is making the switch from White to Red and backwards, thats why there are 4 wires connected to this module

The Footwell is working fine, but when I put the Ambientelightning on T10/10 (thats what the VW guy said he has conected it to) in at the Domeswitch/Light, everything is dark at every T10/10 lightings including the Footwell and Ambientelightning.
So I dont know if its taking to much power from the module, or maybe its possiple to turn up the output of the module T10/10?

If not, Can I take the Power somewhere else from? Must it be 6-8 Volt?
https://www.k-electronic-shop.de/VOLKSW ... paket.html

They say
Schließen Sie die beiden Leitungen der Ambientebeleuchtung (+12V und 0V) an die bereits bestehenden Leitungen in der Innenleseleuchte an.

GT:
Connect the two cables of the ambient lighting (+ 12V and 0V) to the existing cables in the interior reading light.

Greatings

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So I took a look at my half mounted Ambiente Lightning.

The VW Technician had switch the + and - of the cables, so I put it together and everything is working fine now.

But still thx for the assistance cirlo, Happy Holidays
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