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Cluth Problems

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Hello

Car in question - Polo mk5 16v 2001

I've been having problems with my cluth

1. Getting in and out of gears i push the pedal down try select a gear and i basically have to force it into the gear it will go into gear but then sometimes it wont !! If i push even harder on the cluth it will go into gear pritty easy - when i say harder i mean most of the power i have in my left leg to push the cluth down !!!!

2. A crunch when selecting reverse even when waiting and putting it into first etc - its only recently its started doin this.

3. The pedal is heavy compared to my dads vauxhall zafira (nothing else to compare to )

4. I dont think its the cluth thats causing the problem (Any takers ??). If i put the car into first and lift the cluth slowly to find its bitting point it is only about 1cm - 2cm of the floor so the clutch seems to be bitting okay and it isnt a high bitting point

5. Today i went out for lunch , sitting at the lights , selects first gear -- and i hear like a click (relay perhaps - not two clicks just one) this happend just after the bitting point on bringing the peadal upwards, it doesnt do it when going downwards at any point only upwards. The click sounds like it is coming from the dash !! !!!!!! And not from the pedal :| :| :| Its toatllly confusssing me !! It will only do this click in
Netrual , First Gear, 2nd Gear !!
It does it when the car is running and when the car is not running , but only in these gears !

6. I think it may be the pedal box , as they did recall the GTi for there pedal boxes - is it the same pedal box in the mk5 i have ? If it is its almost certain its the pedal box ???

7. I know one of you lot can help me out :roll:

It will almost be certain to go to Vw to be checked !!!!! Just to see if anyone has had similar problems ? or knows of anything similar to this ? As i suspect this could cost a good bit to be fixed :shock:

Nice One , Neil.

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The symptoms (sp?) you're describing sound like the same wierd "click/snap" sound that I had when my clutch cable failed on me a few months ago! I'd had trouble with reverse for a couple of days before, and on this occasion when pulling away from a friend's house, I put the car into second and heard a snap when I lifted the pedal back up. That was when my clutch cable broke - the auto-adjuster had failed. Cue one car stuck in 2nd!

If it is the auto-adjuster, it can be manually adjusted using your trusty socket set (I don't know where exactly!) - the VW Assistance chap sent out to me did this on my GTi in a matter of seconds, and fixed the problem there and then. The pedal and clutch are then fine for the life of the parts, the only problem is that the clutch pedal won't adjust for the wear on the clutch cable. The cable itself can then be replaced at your own leisure, allowing you to save up for it!!

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I have a 16V and my clutch is also very heavy. Not only that but it isn't that smooth either. Its sometimes creaks a bit. I have had the panels off and used some spray grease incase it was a little dry, but it hasn't helped.

Is it likely that I should have it checked?
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my clutch did this and when i went to the garage they said i had melted the thurst release bearing to the clutch! do u race in it?
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Rhodey wrote:my clutch did this and when i went to the garage they said i had melted the thurst release bearing to the clutch! do u race in it?
That is caused by sitting in traffic with the foot on the clutch instead of taking it out of gear. No I don't race it. And I don't sit in traffic with my foot on the clutch either. I had a thrust bearing go on a 1200 beetle years ago and it was a sod to get back home. So now I avoid it even though modern designs shouldn't have the problem.

The thrust bearing isn't lubricated other than what it was packed with at the factory. Don't really see how you melted it; though they do wear.
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I dont race in mine either , just the now and then fast drive.

I came to work this morning, its really heavy and gives such a fight to get into gear :|

When it was under warrenty they adjusted the cluth cable, should i do it again ? If so , where is it ?

Failing that I think ill phone VW the now try get it booked in for a check, im guessing that's another £50 to have it checked out :|

Sometimes i wonder :(

Rhodey >> Much was that to get fixed up ?
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No. The clutch is self adjusting. Its a bit like a ratchet thing, when the clutch lining wear down it goes to the next notch and so it should never require adjustment. There is ample adjustment from a new clutch all the way to the metal of a completely worn out clutch.

If you had it adjusted and it needs it again, then the problem isn't with the adjustment, its something else. And they obviously didn't fix the problem under warranty, so you should see if they can look it over for you as good will. Because your not happy with it.

Mine is a bit sticky and heavy but engages etc fine.
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I booked in to VW tomorro to try find out whats happening , ill get back and let ya's know when i find out :(
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Well man , went to VW

Had the car all day - checked it out ! Seems to be the pedal box !!!!

I had to go down to pay the diagnostic charge , got the report , said sumit was sheered on the pedal box and reccomenned i dont drive it :|

So because it was saturaday they couldnt really do much so they are keeping it till monday where they are going to phone VW see if they will pay all / part / none towards this fault !!! Because its just a month out warrenty !!! And proably the GTi pedal box recalls ????????

Found out the price if they pay nothing , £270 and the diagnostics charge of 55 so gonna cost £325 to get it fixed :|

Hopefully some good will and vw will pay most and take fault !!!!!

See what happens a :|
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Pedal box is a design issue as far as I know. So they should fix it. My pedal (clutch) seems to have quite a bit of sticktion. So that it creaks a bit. It seems to be getting worse, but I don't know if its the same fault everyone else has? I have taken the bottom of the dash off to see all the bits and added some grease. But it seems the same, and the clutch is quite heavy. Don't know if this is the beginnings of an issue.
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surely you shouldnt have to pay a thing if its a recall. Its a design fault which could result in a death or injury if they dont fix it. They are obliged to sort it out for free surely?


DId the recall cover all 6n2's or just gtis? if so, umm may be a diffrent story trying to get money outta em


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live2themaxuk wrote:surely you shouldnt have to pay a thing if its a recall. Its a design fault which could result in a death or injury if they dont fix it. They are obliged to sort it out for free surely?


DId the recall cover all 6n2's or just gtis? if so, umm may be a diffrent story trying to get money outta em

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This is what I'm trying to get to the bottom of. I want to know if it covers all 6n2, just GTi and more importantly what the problem is!
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As far as i know they are only recalling the GTi. There probably waitng to see whats happening with the 6n2 !!

Took it back 2day , the manager said they will cover it at no cost to me, under warrenty !

I asked what about the diagnostic charge i paid !! I aslo had that refunded !!!

JWC thats how my problem started out , not alot but eventually leading to this !!!!
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