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The majority of the ones I sell are direct from a dealer in Germany as I don't havfe the tiem to play with all the ecu's. My mate iis building arig now after nearly doing all the code from a hardware/software point of view but still not from the mechinal point of view. I will take the old suck it a see method when playing and use an adapter in my G40 that allows 4 maps to be trialled at a time which is handy.