Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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Sorry to bother you all but i am at my wits end trying to sort this out.
my son had a problem with his high beam not working then one night it worked and stuck on and started smelling of burned plastic.
i got another switch and clock spring and when i took old one off the plastic had melted at the bottom but not near the wiring.
since fitting new switch i get the perminent esp light on the dash and cant reset the steering angle.
i put old clock spring on and still same and purchased another one and still same.
i have checked and it is reading 0 degrees so not out by 360%.
ive tried to re learn it a lot of times and still the same.
can anyone help me out on this.
thank you in advance
steve

Tuesday,06,June,2023,18:40:18:00009
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8.1 x64
VCDS Version: 23.3.1.0
Data version: 20230421 DS346.2
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VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU009251 License Plate:
Mileage: 200290km-124454mi Repair Order:



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Chassis Type: 6R-VW25 (6N0)
Scan: 01 03 04 09 15 17 19 25 44 56

VIN: WVWZZZ6RZAU009251 Mileage: 200290km-124454miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CGP) Labels: 03E-906-033-AZQ.lbl
Part No SW: 03E 906 023 AL HW: 03E 906 023 L
Component: SIMOS91 1.2l 4V 8395
Revision: --H04--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000031
Shop #: WSC 00787 210 84019
VCID: 69D908A34379EBDB7C-515A
VINID: 9E69EAAAA1A2A919400090850441C6242A

No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 6R0-907-37x-ESP82.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 907 379 R HW: 6R0 907 379 R
Component: ESP8.2i front H04 0002
Revision: --------
Coding: 230224E3216D00BBC42724E784D200801100
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
VCID: 4D91DC3310D117FB70-8018

1 Fault Found:
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100101
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 37
Mileage: 200291 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.10.27
Time: 00:08:52

Freeze Frame:
Hex Value: 0x0007
Hex Value: 0x0002
Hex Value: 0x3251
Hex Value: 0x1BB3
Hex Value: 0x00FF
Hex Value: 0x7F7F
Hex Value: 0x7F00
Hex Value: 0x0000


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 6R0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 937 085 A HW: 6R0 937 085 A
Component: PQ25 BCM H09 0029
Revision: BB009001 Serial number: 9951A252090401
Coding: 64B02BBF08A10048002000003D2B0C900040410F600400002000
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
VCID: 397998E3B0599B5BCC-806C

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 802 H HW: 6R0 959 802 H Labels: 6R0-959-802.CLB
Component: J386__TSG_FT 005 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU015.09.0911681
Coding: 08BC30

Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 6R0 959 801 K HW: 6R0 959 801 K Labels: 6R0-959-801.CLB
Component: J387__TSG_BT 004 0803
Serial number: KU0-KU009.09.0910986
Coding: 08BC30

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 959 655 C HW: 6R0 959 655 C
Component: VW10Airbag00B H09 0018
Revision: -------- Serial number: 003DW006L9ZX Dataset Number: v00301746R0 0001
Coding: 003042
Shop #: WSC 31414 790 31414
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250 A01001
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10BPAVW250_VW25.rod
VCID: 428BFF0FD58FD8839D-8016

Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
Serial number: 3572SRB4000099394989

Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
Serial number: 3582SRB400009A189ACI

Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
Serial number: 3516GRB402F9BR0F3RR.

Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
Serial number: 3526GRB402F9BR0ER43E

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:| 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb-SRI1
Part No SW: 6R0 920 960 A HW: 6R0 920 960 A
Component: KOMBI H23 0110
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 440200
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW23.rod
VCID: 3365AACB9A35610B06-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 6N0-909-901-6R.clb
Part No SW: 6N0 909 901 HW: 6R0 937 085 A
Component: GW-K-CAN TP20 0029
Coding: 002300
Shop #: WSC 12345 123 61029
VCID: 70EF65C7A3A31A133B-8024

1 Fault Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 42
Reset counter: 37
Mileage: 200291 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2017.10.27
Time: 00:28:24


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels:. 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 6R0 920 960 A HW: 6R0 920 960 A
Component: IMMO H23 0110
Serial number:
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
VCID: 3365AACB9A35610B06-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 6Q0-423-156.clb
Part No: 6R0 423 156 A
Component: LenkhilfeTRW V275
Coding: 10150
Shop #: WSC 31414
VCID: 2E53BBBFED174CE369-807A

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:15)--------------------------
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Re: Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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You'll need to do a basic setting of the steering angle and you'll be good to go
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Re: Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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I have tried the full lock left right and centre then drive under 15 miles hour but still won't set.
It comes up with error for steering adjustment g85 as well.
I must have tried at least 5 to 10 times now.
Is there anyway basic setting can be put back in with a code.
Thank you
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Re: Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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This is what I get
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Do this procedure (it doesn't matter if it's for Polo 9N3, it's the same principle).
:arrow: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.ph ... Bosch_5.7)

Remember to enter the Security Access 40168 before going to the Basic adjustment.
Remember to do the procedure with the engine OFF/ignition ON.


Recommendations, notes:

Before doing the basic adjustment, drive completely straight for about 20 meters on a completely flat surface, stop. Considering the center position of the G85 sensor, mechanically/manually adjust the center position of the steering wheel and the combi switch levers. You will find markings/indications on the parts and also use common sense so that everything seems centered. ....They are usually a little more than two turns of the steering wheel on each side.
Again drive as straight as possible another 20 meters, stop, Engine OFF/Ignition ON, and start with the above procedure for the basic adjustment of the G85.

Once you click on the procedure, you will not see any progress, everything seems not to work, because the angle data is captured when you close the dialog (Done, Go back) and exit the ABS unit. If you help yourself with the measurement of values (G85 angle) you find those 0º +/-5 more easily.

Then the warnings/lights on the instrument panel will go away and the Basic Adjustment will be done.

Here, on occasions, the breakage of the internal ribbon cable of the G85 has been reported due to incorrect previous installation.(in case of not taking into account the markings/indications of the center position)🤷‍♂️


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By the way, ODIS S does not have a guided function set for this procedure. :)
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Thank you I will give it ago tonight.
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Re: Steering Angle Sensor Problem

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Just making sure, did you install stalks with a 6Q0 or 6R0 part number?

From my experience, your ESP8.2i is not compatible with the 6R0 steering angle sensor, that comes with 6R0 stalks.
The 6Q0 steering angle sensor, that comes with the 6Q0 stalks and are factory for your car, should be fine.
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I am sure I checked with old but will double check again tonight before I try again thank you
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I would just like to thank you both for helping me out with this.
It has worked this time.
I think the key to it all was stay away from basic settings until security has been done and the ignition on but not running (think I always tried it running but not sure.
Thank you very much.
Could I trouble you to see if I can sort out the other fault on the can gateway if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks a million steve
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Well done, thanks for reporting back
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Mgste wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:18 pm
Could I trouble you to see if I can sort out the other fault on the can gateway if it's not too much trouble.
Thanks a million steve
Well, this Polo has a very basic equipment, which is an excellent advantage nowadays (a rising value).💎
Probably/perhaps the fault reflected in the Gateway is a consequence of installing a Radio that is not original VW equipment (which is not a problem), or that the installed VW radio is not correct connected.
The comfort/convenience CAN BUS on the factory 6R is pretty simple:
BCM_ GW_Radio_Multimedia module_Phone module_Climate control module_Trailer module_OBD2 port.
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Thank you.
Yes he has a different stereo in the car now.
I'm a lot happier now.
Thank you very much again
Steve
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It makes sense to install an affordable radio that has sufficient connectivity for today's technologies, we hope that your son/family can enjoy this 6R for many years, it has a very nice engine to drive 👌, ... enough for all kinds of daily routines.😊
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